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Club Conversation with Deiya and Dean Pernas, 30% Net CAGR Since 2017

You can listen/watch this conversation on Spotify, Apple Podcast, and YouTube

By David Barbato · Aug 3, 2026 · 1 min read min read
Club Conversation with Deiya and Dean Pernas, 30% Net CAGR Since 2017

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Deiya Pernas, CFA, and Dean Pernas are co-founders of Pernas Research, an independent equity research firm whose audited returns have compounded at more than 30% annually since 2017. Deiya previously served as Deputy CIO at The Bahnsen Group, while Dean left a career in chemical engineering in 2020 to invest full-time.

In this episode, they discuss why they built an audited, buy-side research model instead of following the sell-side approach, how they structure a concentrated portfolio using core, starter, and speculative position sizing, and how they think about holding cash in an expensive market. They also walk through two case studies: a contrarian long in Xometry that returned 764%, and a failed investment in sim-racing company Endor, which went bankrupt despite a pandemic-driven demand surge. The conversation closes with the rule they use to manage the risk of averaging down.

You can listen/watch this conversation on SpotifyApple, and YouTube below:

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